il Monstro, an 845:845 Power Amplifier
I had been plotting to build a pair of monoblock tube power amplifiers since the second iteration of the Foreplay kit, but with the house renovations and other distractions I could not scrape together the cash to buy a Parabee kit from Bottlehead, and so the wheels kept spinning...
In the meantime I read everything I could find and eventually fell under the evil influence of a notorious group known as the Dixie Bottleheads. The great thing about groups like this is that you get the chance to hear things you might never encounter in the 'real world'. The horrible thing is that most of these things sound damn good and with the encouragement of others, well, plans begin...
And so, in the Summer of 2001, I listened several times to a fine 211 amp built by Dixie Bottlehead (that'd be dBH in eMail-speak) Randy Worthington, and began to think about building an amplifier using it's lower-mu cousin, the 845. By early Fall a bunch of the dBH folks travelled out to Seattle to VSAC 2001 and hosted a room. While there I had a chance to discuss the 845 amp project with some of the other attendees and found that many folks were thinking along the same lines - of building an 845 amp that did not drive the tubes flat out, but instead at lower voltage for less power and clean sound. The opinion came up several times that the 845 run in this 500V B+ sweet spot sounded like a big 45 tube. With the price of new Chinese 845 tubes hovering around $40 ea, you could buy a lot of tubes and grade out some special ones and still spend far less than most other power tubes.
VSAC 2001 - the most fun I have ever had at a conference on any subject! Found the Sakuma design and started noodling on a parafeed adaptation. This design will use massive amounts of iron, so some creative approach to parts and/or financing will be needed.
The key circuit inspiration for this amp is a Sakuma design using an 845 to drive an 845:
View Sakuma 845:845 Schematic
Original Schematic at Japanese 'Direct Heating' site
Many other 845 projects can be found online, and some are published - Sound Practices showed a version of J.C.Morrison's Dinosaur 50 amp with 845 tubes running at low voltage.
When I returned to Atlanta I started working on this project seriously, and I'll cover some of the highlights here. To shorten this page and reduce confusion (and boredom) I've separated the early part of the saga and moved it to:
Origin of il Monstro
... Be Warned: this is a very long story. Three years of planning, building, re-building, moving, re-building, testing, failures, re-building, and finally some success along the way. I'll try to make it interesting, but first I have to get it all out of my notes and into the site!
So forgive me if this page and the origins page writhe around for a while - I want to get all of this squared away for posterity, but the rest of my life intrudes most of the time. And after all, this is supposed to be a hobby. Isn't it?
And for those of you who just want the schematic:
Most Recent il Monstro 845:845 Schematic (November 2008)
Update - in five years of running the Hammond 300BX main power trannies, I've managed to kill two - that's a 50% mortality rate, even while running them within specs. In 2008 I asked Jack Elliano of Electra-Print to wind some custom replacements ( Replacement Transformers [2 required]: 120VAC Nominal Primary, 550-450-0-450-550 secondary @ 250mA, Filament 1 - 5V C.T. @ 3A [for 83 rectifier], Filament 2 - 6.3V C.T. @ 6A [for future timing relays, etc.] - M19 laminations, Vertical mount, 12 inch leads) About 50% larger than the Hammonds, these new transformers have been excellent and I'm sure Jack would be happy to wind some of the other parts as well.
il Monstro is alive! Breadboard, circa 2002, Front: 845 tubes and oneElectron PRC-2 plate chokes, Back: Lots of huge GE oil caps and B+ chokes, Left: Filament supply with CLCLC filters.
D i s c l a i m e r:
Tubes mean big voltages. Big tubes mean bigger voltages and even more current than most tube amps. The voltages in this amplifier design can stop your heart and then you'll be dead. Be careful! Follow all the suggestions of folks who are wiser than me and don't even try this if you don't know what you are attempting. Take responsibility for your own actions and don't sue me, OK?
il Monstro circa 2003, right channel shown
It's really really heavy.
il Monstro weighs 282 pounds (that's 128 kilograms!) split into four boxes. Dual mono power supplies feed dual mono signal chassis via sheilded umbilicals. It definitely helps to get a friend to help carry one of the 100 pound power supplies if you have to do stairs.
This amplifier is an all-out attack on good sound using as much crazy iron as needed and the best craftsmanship I can muster. But it really is nothing new, just another design made while standing on the shoulders of the giants of tube design and a collection of all the good ideas I could glean off the internet in the past five years.
The 'Thanks, because without you it couldn't be done' list has to include: Dan Schmalle and Paul Joppa of Bottlehead, Ron Welborne, the late great 'Buddha' Camille, Harvey 'Gizmo' Rosenberg, Art Dudley and lamented Listener magazine, all the contributors to VALVE magazine, and a special nod to the Dixie Bottleheads who never gave up on me finishing this thing - Phil Sieg, Jim Dowdy, Rick Henthorn, Jeff LaLonde, Brad Brooks, Jeffrey Jackson, Ken Lochridge, Steve Killian, Grainger Morrison, and the rest of the gang - I owe you all a beer.
Once again, the schematic:
Most Recent il Monstro 845:845 Schematic
Summary of Design: Power Supply
The power supply is a brute force design, with everything overbuilt. Regulation is achieved by tuning the circuits for the constant load.
Rect -- C --- L --- C --- L --- C --- L --- C --- Choke - 845 Driver 83 3uF 10H 10uF 10H 120uF 12H 24uF 48H 82ohm 82ohm | 155ohm 304ohm | 507VDC | .001VAC | 63V Bias | ----------------- Choke - 845 Output 48H 552VDC 304ohm .001VAC 65V Bias
As in any directly heated triode (DHT) the filament *is* the Cathode of the tube, so clean and quiet power is critical. The filament supply for il Monstro is built similarly to the B+ supply, using chokes on the low-voltage supplies to smooth the ripple. This is unusual for tube amplifiers, but avoids the 'dead' sound some folks have reported with DC filaments in DHT amplifiers. 3.25A per 845 means that conventional solid-state regulation is not possible. Each 845 has a dedicated filament supply that is grounded via the center-tap of the cathode hum pots shown in the schematic.
Summary of Design: Signal Section
There is not much left of the original Sakuma design in il Monstro except the 845 driving an 845 and the 5k output transformer impedance.
The circuit is pretty basic: two tubes with iron on both sides of each. An input transformer provides most of the voltage gain since the 845 has a relatively low amplification factor. Here are the relative signal AC levels in the circuit:
1.0VAC --+ | Altec/Peerless 15095 input 5.0VAC --+ ( ) 845 Driver Tube 21.81VAC --+ | Magnequest EXO-173ni 21.67VAC --+ ( ) 845 Output Tube 81.7VAC --+ | Magnequest EXO-50 output XFMR 7.6VAC --+ (( )) Speaker Binding Posts
With input an output tranformers and no oscillation, the amplifier is very stable. Input cables can be connected and disconnected without thumps. The vintage Altec/Peerless 15095 microphone stepup used as an input transformer also allows easy switching of absolute phase as shown on the schematic; this is incredibly useful in a high-resolution system. Speaker cables can also be attached and detached without worry or thumps as long as the input signal is muted.
Another unique feature of this amplifier is the use of stepup grid choke coupling between the stages. Since I made the decision early to build parafeed choke loading into the design there was no real need to use a full interstage transformer to drive the output tube. Mike LeFevre of Magnequest suggested that I might try a newly revived Peerless design, the EXO-173 center tapped autoformer, as an interstage coupling device. Driving the EXO-173 via the center tap with one end grounded gives a stepup at the grid that offsets the insertion loss. The output tube grid gets the goodness of a grid choke with low DC impedance to ground but high AC isolation, and the signal path is much more direct than a typical interstage transformer.
Both Parafeed chokes are oneElectron, and the output trannies are Magnequest EXO-50 pinstriped nickel and iron - see a pattern here? I tried to save money by using Hammond iron in the brute force power supply positions, and splurged on Magnequest and Peerless signal iron and compromised with the oneElectron plate chokes.
Extras: Things not Shown in the Schematic
Summary of Design: Chassis Design
As a former industrial designer I really enjoy the whole chassis design and construction process, and with the new workshop I should be able to build even stranger equipment in the future! The case design for il Monstro builds on earlier themes I developed for the Mambo preamp; figured maple frames with paduak trim and 13ga copper top plates. The new wood frame had to be able to support a lot more weight than a preamp, so they are full thickness with glued-in ribs for ledges. The black base frame adds overall height to hide deep internal transformers and is also made from maple. The stepped appearance of base frame, narrower side frame, and then the top plate with set back components gives an impression of stability and the radiused edges show off the maple figuring while blending with the rounded shapes of the transformer covers.
|Obligatory Beauty Shots|
|And How does it Sound?|
I took the breadboard amp up to Knoxville for the September 2002 Dixie Bottlehead meeting at Phil Seig's house and it was a stunning success in mono. The goal of all of this for me is an involving system, one that make you forget everything about thinking 'sound' and instead makes the music the most important thing. That day at Phil's this amp achieved that goal, both playing through Phil's CAR T1s and through a pair of Terry Cain's Voigt pipes with Fostex drivers.
When the record was started everyone stopped talking, and they listened for two whole songs. This may seem like a strange comment, but at these meetings there is a tendency to murmur away at the back of the room and catch up with folks after you get the general sound of a new component. If you really want to listen you just move to the front. We had just listened to a pair of excellent high-power SET 845 amps (417:300B:845) built by Jeff LaLonde before il Monstro, but this was different.
It sure proved to me that the Sino tubes are not limiting this design!
Afterwards, everyone was complimenting the breadboard amp to the point where it was embarrassing. I only hope that the amp sounds this good when I transplant it into stereo with housings...
In Spring 2004 Blithe and I finally had a dBH meeting at our house in Charlotte, NC - and il Monstro was finally singing, with a tiny bit of hum remaining after Rick Henthorn waved his magic digital oscilloscope over it in the lab we hauled the carcass upstairs and listened to it for hours. Very nice. It turned out that the residual hum was the sneak ground between the driver and output fils - later solved by using dedicated power transformers.
Still, the amp sounded dang good in comparison with Rick Henthorn's 'Limbo' parafeed 71a subwatt amplifier and Steve Killian's Bottlehead Parabees (300B parafeed kit amps).
Well, after listening to the fully shaken-out-and-stable il Monstro for several weeks in the Fall of 2004, Steve Killian and I drove up to Pennsylvania for the weekend for the Oswalds Mill festival in mid-November. I took il Monstro and a re-housed lead-acid-battery-powered Sonic Impact digital amplifier (talk about contrasting DIY philosophies!) for show and tell, but we never got the chip-amp into the system.
Jonathan Weiss, the host, has an incredible system in the huge main room up there based on RCA theater horn technologies - bass horns, segmented mid-horns with RCA 1428 field-coil drivers, and conical treble horns, also with field-coil drivers. Astounding detail and presence with these speakers, even in a huge room with 30 inch thick stone walls. Alternate speakers used that weekend included other RCA theater horns and also a mismatched pair of 6 inch (?) field-coil radiators.
So I finally was able to hear il Monstro with a truly state of the art (!) high-efficiency speaker system and it was a mind-warping, expectation-altering experience.
At some point on Saturday we had a one-on-one comparison between il Monstro and Jonathan's vintage 65-year-old rack mount RCA (not Western Electric!) 9355 push-pull 845 theater amp with a custom vintage pentode to 300B driver amp (and that driver amplifier sounded great all on it's own), I believe those things go for $40-50k in Japan these days as a highly-coveted piece of functional classic audio. About six feet high and very industrial, but a sweet sound.
Jonathan had a 45RPM LP version of Louis Armstrong singing 'St. James Infirmary' a classic old New Orleans jazz piece that was riveting to hear on his system. Certainly you could hear the classic descriptions of SE v. PP in the presentations - il Monstro was a little more woolly in the bass but had better immediacy in the voice, while the WE 845 PP amp had better bass control but was maybe a touch glassier in the mids and high frequencies. What great company to even be competitive with an amplifier like that!
Or, as GaryB said:
It truly was a great meeting. I was at the Mill 3 years back but haven't had a chance to return since. As others have pointed out, the gear sounded very good with many of the amps doing a fine job. The Mill is such a big space that even with the huge RCA horns, an 8W 300B amp isn't enough power. The big 845 SE amps or the push pull amps really were needed to bring things to life.
A terrific weekend all around to hear those systems in that space.
BTW, on my way out of the Mill, Jonathan was also congratulating me on the sound of my amp and going on about how 'big' amps sounded in his system. Gary was not the only one to assume that il Monstro was a more powerful amp from the sound it produced that weekend. As Grover Gardner has said about the 845 sound - it just powers through. I didn't have the heart to tell him il Monstro was only putting out 5-6 clean Watts.